Sunday, July 27, 2014

David Watson 13 questions

Photo Peter Gannushkin

David Watson is a musician living and working in New York City. A long-time staple of the experimental scene, he has worked closely with a wide range of exceptional musicians.  The Wire magazine described his latest release — a double CD project from the Experimental Intermedia label — as “magnificent,” stating, “nobody has heard anything quite like this before.”

Photo Andrea Callard

Watson started performing publicly in New Zealand in 1981.  At that time in New Zealand, there simply was no experimental music scene.  After five years of extensive touring, recording, and starting a co-operative record label (Braille Records), then organizing national festivals involving more than one hundred musicians, there was an experimental scene in New Zealand. He moved to New York in 1987.  Soon after his arrival, Wayne Horvitz asked him to perform in the Comprovisation Festival held in the nascent, and soon to be hugely influential Knitting Factory.  This began a long commitment to New York’s downtown community.

Photo Peter Gannushkin

As a guitar player he has been a regular performer of John Zorn’s classic game piece, “Cobra.”  He has performed and recorded in various projects with Chris Mann, Ikue Mori and many others.  Recently he premiered Robert Ashley’s 1964 composition for trio “White on White.”In 1993 Watson began creating his own music for the Highland Bagpipes.  His first project featuring bagpipes was an all-star downtown band, The Wax, which included at various times Otomo Yoshihide, Kato Hideki, Andrea Parkins, Christine Bard and Ikue Mori.

About his solo CD “Throats” the Downtown Music Gallery wrote “the bagpipes shimmer as different lines pile up like an old Terry Riley piece, hypnotically repeating while slowly shifting in pitch.”  Startling Moniker, reviewing his last recording wrote, “[His work] positively leaps from the stereo, and quickly fills the house with shimmering drone of the fullest variety imaginable.  The physical qualities of this recording cannot be overstated.”He is a member of Glacial, a long-standing collaborative trio with Lee Ranaldo and Tony Buck, which features both his guitar playing and piping.

Writing in the Los Angeles Times, Josef Woodward described a performance in 2007 at the Schindler House, saying, “His approach to his instrument is completely unconventional, highly original and relentlessly inventive.”A partial list of recording and performing credits includes Christian Marclay, Zeena Parkins, Andrea Parkins, Hans Tammen, Ikue Mori, Jon Rose, Jim Staley, Christine Bard, Jim Pugliese, Makigami Koichi, Kato Hideki, Thomas Lehn, Jonathon Kane, Tony Buck, Otomo Yoshihide, Rhys Chatham, David Soldier, Phil Dadson, and Anthony Coleman.

David Watson, John Zorn Cobra, Schl8hof, Wels, November 6, 2009

His recorded work can be found on the Avant, Lovely Music, XI (Experimental Intermedia), Tzadik, DIA Editions, Ariel, Braille Codex, Kraak, Table of Elements, Three Lobed, Dr. Jims, and Midwest (DPAG) labels.He has contributed music to film, notably to Mathew Barney’s “Cremaster 3,” Laura Parnes “No Is Yes” and Abigail Child’s “B-Side.”

David Watson and Jessica Patron. at the Schindler House

He has an extensive background in collaborating with choreographers, notably Jeremy Nelson, Luis Lara, Yves Musard, Daria Fain and Osmany Tellez.  In New York his music for dance has been performed extensively at Danspace/Saint Marks, Judson Church, Brooklyn Academy of Music, and has toured Europe and South America. He has curated international festivals of experimental music and sound in New York and New Zealand, produced experimental radio (the series “Giant Ear”) and taught Sonic Arts at the SMFA in Boston, and eco-sound at the Bronx River Art Community.

Chris Cochrane / David Watson / Andrew Drury - at Soup and Sound, Brooklyn - Oct 17 2013

Which was the first and the last records you bought with your own money?   

The first record?
Jimi Hendrix. What we called a maxi single - a 45 rpm with four songs on it. Hey Joe, Purple Haze, Wind Cries Mary, 51st Anniversary. I can remember the liner notes, saying in the first sentence that he ”gyrated wildly, darting in and out of the music.”  What was that? I was about 11 or 12.

The last record?
I just wanted to hear Dinah Washington. I went down the road to The Thing, a junk store that has a basement completely disorganized, full of LPs. Took me about two minutes to pull out a Dinah LP. 1$

I ‘spose I could have looked her up on youtube or something.

Glacial Trio (feat. Tony Buck & David Watson) (Studio Excerpt)

What do you recall about your guitar learning process?

Well, a lot of it was contradictory.
I lived in a pretty isolated small town and you didn’t feel like you had options. And you didn’t even know that.
I was a teen intensely serious about the guitar and no idea what to do about that. So – I started learning classical guitar. Which didn’t really make any sense. Fernando Sor and friends were 1,000,000 miles form anything I was interested in. Classical was something of a craze ( could that possibly be true?) at that time, and I made good arguments like, “it’ll give me a solid basis”. (In what?).
I became friends about then (1978) with local guitar legend Steve Apirana – a wonderfully tasteful and intuitive player – and he made a project of me to see if he could get me started on being tasteful and intuitive too. I think I was quite the challenge. His guitar teaching career may have stalled right there. As poor a student as I was, it still gave me a stock of guitar basics that I wouldn’t have otherwise.

After that .. well… just having as many musical experiences as I could, and then trying to think them through on the guitar. I played gamelan in college, traveled in Indonesia in ‘82 for example. That got me thinking about dissonance and tuning. I was playing with free- and new- jazz fanatics. I think it takes a lot more to phrase that music on guitar than say sax. I would try to do that.
I didn’t really nail any of these things, but I ‘d always be trying to take on these things and do them on guitar. For all its faults , guitar is amazingly versatile .
These days I have been learning the basics of Haitian conga playing, and playing in highland pipebands. I call this part of my guitar learning.

As I said, as a teen in small-town New Zealand very little was available then . Very little. The good part of that was, without realizing it, information was very important. I‘d never heard a Fred Frith record for example, but I‘d seen a photograph of him with a reverse neck guitar thing in a magazine. I had Cage’s Prepared Piano LP. I’d seen the Jimi Hendrix movie (numerous times). I had a couple of Ornette LP’s (“The empty Foxhole) (that I had borrowed from the rapper Scribe’s Dad : Thanks ! I’m still looking after them for you).
To say that‘s all the information you need might be a bit flippant. Or, maybe not.

Matthew Welch & David Watson perform Michael Vincent Waller - HIGHLAND (for the afterlife)

What gear do you use?

Gibson Barney Kessel guitar, late 1960’s.
Maton semi acoustic (from Australia) 1963. I love this: like a a cross between a Gresch , a Gibson and a cigar box.
A Yamaha acoustic.
A couple of old fuzzface distortion pedals - they were old when I got them 25 years ago. A Rat distortion. A Hot Cake distortion. Some volume pedals.
A Musicman 100w amp.
Some small size bows, some slides.

I used to be into preparations….. lots of cutlery. Not now. But in Brooklyn there is always a supply of steel tynes on the roads : it’s what they use to sweep the streets. I‘m partial to those.

Sculptor Stuart Griffiths had a show at Wellington City Gallery, NZ. He invited me to do some resording for it and I invited my band mate, drummer Anthony Donaldson. I dont think our band officially released anything until 1984 (on Braille Records), so this was an early recordng for us.

Which work of your own are you most surprised by, and why?

I listened to some old stuff, on cassettes for this project. The show taped in Prague, about ’91 had a great, high energy volatile audience. I think that risk really made a difference. It felt death or glory.

David Grubbs, Steve Roden and David Watson perform a work by David Grubbs at Beacon Arts

Can you describe an experience that you believe contributed to your becoming a musician?

My sister married a drummer, and that really led me into this world. And that’s what I did. It might seem that most people I knew were musicians was accidental, but I don’t think so.

Live extract from a club gig in Prague, 1992, I think. 
Place was packed with people "who wanted to see something from New York." Kind of a challenge.

What quality do you admire most in a musician?

Their ability to save for the future.

Visuals by Kevin Norton. Music improvised by Frode Gjerstad, David Watson and Kevin Norton. Gjerstad - alto sax, Watson - electric guitar, Norton - drums, collectively know as TIPPLE.

What's the difference between a good instrument and a bad one?

All depends on how you are using it, and what for. It’s all about your relationship with it. Rather like a person. With some people, you are only going to go so far. A good instrument you aren’t thinking about that.

Solo prepared guitar (multi track) piece from my LP 'Reference'(Braille records, 1985). I made this pretty soon before leaving NZ for NY. (Nick Roughan from the Skeptics engineered)

What are the challenges and benefits of today's digital music scene? 

I think I am quoting Vaclav Havel here, talking about the Iron Curtain: “In the West everything is possible, and nothing matters. In the East, nothing is possible, and everything matters.”

An unrelealeased (and unmixed) improv track from Harvestworks, NY, from a project Andrea Parkins had put together. Mid-Nineties, I think.

Depict the sound you're still looking for. 

I’d spent a decade, deep into Derek Bailey. I was driving in the car and Maggie May, with Ron Wood, came on. For whatever reason, it just bowled me over.
Jimi, Machine Gun. One of so many. The Howling Wolf Chess sessions, with Hubert Sumlin. Always loved the early Son House records. Eugene Chadbourne, esp. in the early 80’s .. like “Don’t Punk Out”. I always love the spikey sound of James  Blood on Captain Black. Sound checking with Lee Ranaldo is always a particular thing. He pulls out a suitcase of effects, takes one moment to plug in and usually has this instantly translucent, springy and deep sound.

But : The way my cat reacts to me opening a can beats all of the above.

Music (improvised) by Chuck Bettis, Kevin Norton & David Watson. All visuals by Kevin Norton. Music extracted from a live recording from Freddy's Bar, March 25, 2014. Chuck Bettis, laptop electronics; David Watson, electric guitar & prepared electric guitar; Kevin Norton, percussion.

What is the best thing about playing a guitar….and what is the worst?

There are about a billion guitar players. You chose to play guitar for the same reasons as 100 million others. And you’re all on a quest for a recognizable individual identity. Bizarre.

A studio left-over from about '97 when we making what became "Or Yellow," which ended up being released by Lovely Music (with Christian Marclay, Christine Bard, Anthony Coleman, Mark Stewart, and JIm Pugliese). Here I'm playing the guitar and Chris Mann is doing the words (A very resiliant format). No idea of the real title.

What do you need from music?

Like many others I am trying to understand copyright and intellectual property law history, as it might relate to someone not in the mainstream. I mean, people will pay $5 for a coke at a movie theater, but….. ….

Many things I could say I need, but I’ll say a good audience: somewhat educated, somewhat open, somewhat expectant.

Ursula Scherrer and David Watson | Anarchist Art Festival at the Living Theatre in New York

Tell me one musical work which has provoked a change in your music.

A couple of years ago, through Alex Waterman I was lucky enough to premier Robert Ashley’s White on White. It is a trio written in1964 and it had never been performed. It has a very strong and simple conceptual basis. For me just having to negotiate the score was like an out-body-experience. (I had to look at the score, find my set of numbers, and then interpret them). It gave me weirdly clearer relationship to the sound I was making, and the people I was playing with.

I think Time to Kill was the title. Pretty sure. Anyways, mid NIneties, with my band The Wax (Kato Hideki bs, Evan Gallagher keys, Dave Capello dms). Over a few years The Wax 'experienced' my drift from guitar to bagpipes. And this very guitary track didn't make it onto our CD (on Dr Jims records). Recorded by Marc Anthony Thomson in Cibbo Matto's rehearsal room.

What projects are you working on now and what does the future hold?

I have to leave that one up to Doris Day. My life is not so guitaristic these days, but it is musical. The only ongoing group where I am playing guitar is Tipple, a great improvising trio with percussionist Kevin Norton and sax player Frode Gjerstad. We have three CDs out and are playing together again later this year. I’ll just say as regards that …. Check us out!



Reference   Braille Records BRAI 8 1986

Ribbons Of Euphoria  Midwest 9 none 1996

David Watson / Jim Denley / Rik Rue / Amanda Stewart / Ikue Mori - Bit-Part Actor Braille Records Braille 014 1996

David Watson with Shelley Hirsch and Makigami Koichi - Throats Ecstatic Peace! ECST009CD E#89b 2007

Fingering An Idea   XI Records XI 132 2007

Frode Gjerstad, Kevin Norton, David Watson - Tipples FMR Records FMRCD299-1210 2011

Alastair Galbraith, Jean Jacques Palix*, David Watson - Pure Speculation(LP, S/Sided) La Station Radar LSR 036 2013

Frode Gjerstad, Kevin Norton, David Watson - Live Tipple FMR Record FMRCD358-0513 2013

Skirl Avant Avan 077 1999